i think a lot of this depends on jim lehrer. i think how aggressive will he be in the questioning and follow ups? will he become a bipartisan advocate going after inconsistencies? >> jennifer: the format is a little more flexible. so there's an opportunity for mitt romney to not only get his licks in but in response to the president as well. and if he doesn't come out swinging, i think he has let an opportunity pass. >> cenk: and on the other hand john, he can overstep if he is too disrespectful to the president. >> john: of course. yeah i'm here for zinger watch 2012. and i found it curious when his campaign leaked that he was rehearsing his ad libs a few days ago. but it's worth pointing out governor romney has only debated democrats twice in his career. he did a great job in the primary season not getting too flustered. but when you are being pummelled by seven other candidates it's pretty tough unless it is gingrich, santorum and bachmann. >> when they said zingers, i didn't interpret it that he was going to come out and be